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Dying to Talk – Exploring Death Before Crisis Hits 

Four Swans Therapy Mind Yourself Podcast

In this episode of the Mind Your Self Podcast, we are joined by Sarah Gardiner, civil funeral celebrant, death doula, and founder of Echoes of Life. Sarah’s work focuses on helping people approach death, dying and grief in a more human, honest and compassionate way.

For many of us, conversations about death only happen in moments of crisis. Yet avoiding the topic can often leave people feeling more isolated, fearful, and unprepared when loss inevitably touches our lives.

Sarah invites us into a different kind of conversation — one that explores legacy, reflection, and the importance of speaking about death before we have to.

We talk about living alongside grief rather than trying to fix it, how storytelling and remembrance can help steady us in times of loss, and why gentle, open conversations about mortality can actually deepen how we live and connect with one another.

This episode offers a thoughtful and compassionate space to reflect on loss, memory, and what it means to live meaningfully while we’re here.

You don’t have to navigate it alone.

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